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	<description>Actress and Model</description>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;ve got a new blog! by Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI, I am amazed by your photos! watching them, I can realize how much you love modeling!
Take care,
Adrian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI, I am amazed by your photos! watching them, I can realize how much you love modeling!<br />
Take care,<br />
Adrian</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tolerance by Jon Simpson</title>
		<link>http://www.joceline.co.uk/blog/news/tolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-977</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 01:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a mere hobbyist when I got to work with Joceline.   Working with her was a joy....and I am now a full professional photographer.   I can just hope some day she passes this way again. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a mere hobbyist when I got to work with Joceline.   Working with her was a joy&#8230;.and I am now a full professional photographer.   I can just hope some day she passes this way again. <img src='http://www.joceline.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Tolerance by Kenneth Bladon</title>
		<link>http://www.joceline.co.uk/blog/news/tolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-969</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth Bladon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are only two sorts of photographer, as there are with most professions and occupations. Good and bad. I aspire to the good. I am not, at the moment, paid for it. Thus I do it for love, or even pay for the privilege, that makes me an amateur. Having seen some of the cliched, or worse, images that get into, for example, the daily papers, taken by staffers, who are paid, and thus professional, which occasionally would disgrace a five-year-old with the digital equivalent of a Box Brownie, there are some pretty bad ones out there. It has to be said that it takes a rare negative skill to take a bad photo of you, Joceline, and I have a dear friend, who is in her early fifties, and not classically beautiful, of whom the same can be said. Perhaps the comments redound to the discredit of the commentator rather than the commented-upon. Do some of the models concerned never stop and think that &quot;I&#039;m the professional here, I do this all the time, Joe behind the camera is doing it for love and has paid good money to hire me, I must do my best for him&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are only two sorts of photographer, as there are with most professions and occupations. Good and bad. I aspire to the good. I am not, at the moment, paid for it. Thus I do it for love, or even pay for the privilege, that makes me an amateur. Having seen some of the cliched, or worse, images that get into, for example, the daily papers, taken by staffers, who are paid, and thus professional, which occasionally would disgrace a five-year-old with the digital equivalent of a Box Brownie, there are some pretty bad ones out there. It has to be said that it takes a rare negative skill to take a bad photo of you, Joceline, and I have a dear friend, who is in her early fifties, and not classically beautiful, of whom the same can be said. Perhaps the comments redound to the discredit of the commentator rather than the commented-upon. Do some of the models concerned never stop and think that &#8220;I&#8217;m the professional here, I do this all the time, Joe behind the camera is doing it for love and has paid good money to hire me, I must do my best for him&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tolerance by simon</title>
		<link>http://www.joceline.co.uk/blog/news/tolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said , hear, hear !!!  

best wishes

~simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said , hear, hear !!!  </p>
<p>best wishes</p>
<p>~simon</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tolerance by Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.joceline.co.uk/blog/news/tolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-911</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a photographer or a model - just a more-than casual observer - but just wanted to say that&#039;s a very enlightened point of view. Doesn&#039;t matter what it says on someone&#039;s business card, anyone who can fill the very tall order of making you look even more lovely is OK by me :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a photographer or a model &#8211; just a more-than casual observer &#8211; but just wanted to say that&#8217;s a very enlightened point of view. Doesn&#8217;t matter what it says on someone&#8217;s business card, anyone who can fill the very tall order of making you look even more lovely is OK by me <img src='http://www.joceline.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Tolerance by jimmyD</title>
		<link>http://www.joceline.co.uk/blog/news/tolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-908</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 20:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies. Didn&#039;t intend to go off-topic with my comment. I agree 100% with your point-of-view in terms of models&#039; attitudes towards hobby photographers. They, amateur shooters, are huge and often very positive contributors to many models&#039; portfolios as well as their purses. As a photographer who also authors and sells ebooks on the subject of photography, they also contribute to my purse... well, my wallet. (I don&#039;t carry a purse.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies. Didn&#8217;t intend to go off-topic with my comment. I agree 100% with your point-of-view in terms of models&#8217; attitudes towards hobby photographers. They, amateur shooters, are huge and often very positive contributors to many models&#8217; portfolios as well as their purses. As a photographer who also authors and sells ebooks on the subject of photography, they also contribute to my purse&#8230; well, my wallet. (I don&#8217;t carry a purse.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tolerance by Joceline</title>
		<link>http://www.joceline.co.uk/blog/news/tolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-907</link>
		<dc:creator>Joceline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jimmyD, I feel as though you you&#039;re trying to use my blog post to make a point about something else.  I&#039;m talking about models&#039; attitudes to amateur photographers here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimmyD, I feel as though you you&#8217;re trying to use my blog post to make a point about something else.  I&#8217;m talking about models&#8217; attitudes to amateur photographers here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tolerance by jimmyD</title>
		<link>http://www.joceline.co.uk/blog/news/tolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-905</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 19:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure where all this deriding of hobbyists is taking place. Personally, as someone who makes their living shooting models much like yourself, I&#039;ve noticed (on forums) when some amount of deriding takes place, more often than not it has to do with those of them seeking out professional work but willing to give (what should be) paid work away for free or near-free. I don&#039;t jump into their career fields and work for free or near free, potentially undermining their livelihoods, and I&#039;d prefer they didn&#039;t do so with mine. Just sayin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure where all this deriding of hobbyists is taking place. Personally, as someone who makes their living shooting models much like yourself, I&#8217;ve noticed (on forums) when some amount of deriding takes place, more often than not it has to do with those of them seeking out professional work but willing to give (what should be) paid work away for free or near-free. I don&#8217;t jump into their career fields and work for free or near free, potentially undermining their livelihoods, and I&#8217;d prefer they didn&#8217;t do so with mine. Just sayin.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tolerance by Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.joceline.co.uk/blog/news/tolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 11:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fabulous post Joceline. As ever, your erudite and reasoned exposition puts things entirely in perspective.  

As one of the &quot;amateurs&quot; that has has had the great pleasure of working with you and coincidentally with Holly too, I can only comment that having the opportunity to work with you both has been amongst the most fulfilling of my photographic life.

With fewer than half a dozen or so shoots to my name, I am firmly in the beginner/amateur category.  However, I&#039;m aware of my limitations and constantly strive to improve.  We all started somewhere and it is the kindness and willingness to gently guide &quot;us&quot; in the right direction that differentiates the great models from the merely average.  You and Holly obviously both fall into the former category and deserve all of your considerable success.

As the internet continues to evolve, the way we publish in the future, will mean that the lines will continue to blur between professional and amateur.  Eventually, it will be only those with the most talent and astute business sense that survive. However, that need not concern  the likes of me unduly since a career as a pro-photographer and all that that entails does not, at this stage in my life, interest me. 

My only desire is to constantly improve and create the best images I am capable of.  With a full time career outside photography, the learning process is slow, but it will remain very much my passion. 

The likes of digital cameras and Photoshop etc are creating a fascinating challenge that makes this such a vibrant and interesting time to be a photographer.

So, in the end, this is a plea for tolerance and understanding from a confirmed amateur who will continue to seek out and greatly appreciate working with fabulous models exemplified by you and Holly. 

Your post is well-timed, lucid and astute. Bravo Joceline. 

Paul
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabulous post Joceline. As ever, your erudite and reasoned exposition puts things entirely in perspective.  </p>
<p>As one of the &#8220;amateurs&#8221; that has has had the great pleasure of working with you and coincidentally with Holly too, I can only comment that having the opportunity to work with you both has been amongst the most fulfilling of my photographic life.</p>
<p>With fewer than half a dozen or so shoots to my name, I am firmly in the beginner/amateur category.  However, I&#8217;m aware of my limitations and constantly strive to improve.  We all started somewhere and it is the kindness and willingness to gently guide &#8220;us&#8221; in the right direction that differentiates the great models from the merely average.  You and Holly obviously both fall into the former category and deserve all of your considerable success.</p>
<p>As the internet continues to evolve, the way we publish in the future, will mean that the lines will continue to blur between professional and amateur.  Eventually, it will be only those with the most talent and astute business sense that survive. However, that need not concern  the likes of me unduly since a career as a pro-photographer and all that that entails does not, at this stage in my life, interest me. </p>
<p>My only desire is to constantly improve and create the best images I am capable of.  With a full time career outside photography, the learning process is slow, but it will remain very much my passion. </p>
<p>The likes of digital cameras and Photoshop etc are creating a fascinating challenge that makes this such a vibrant and interesting time to be a photographer.</p>
<p>So, in the end, this is a plea for tolerance and understanding from a confirmed amateur who will continue to seek out and greatly appreciate working with fabulous models exemplified by you and Holly. </p>
<p>Your post is well-timed, lucid and astute. Bravo Joceline. </p>
<p>Paul<br />
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		<title>Comment on Tolerance by Ivory Flame</title>
		<link>http://www.joceline.co.uk/blog/news/tolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-895</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivory Flame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my god Joceline you&#039;re a f**king legend you know that. I could just hear the backing track of proud english music rising triumphantly as I read to the end. Not only was I stupidly excited to see you&#039;d updated - what a post! &#039;Bloody hell!&#039; (said in Joceline-style tone) So true, it&#039;s no wonder you have earnt so much respect with your awesome way of seeing things. I salute you!! Hope things are great!
Holly xxx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my god Joceline you&#8217;re a f**king legend you know that. I could just hear the backing track of proud english music rising triumphantly as I read to the end. Not only was I stupidly excited to see you&#8217;d updated &#8211; what a post! &#8216;Bloody hell!&#8217; (said in Joceline-style tone) So true, it&#8217;s no wonder you have earnt so much respect with your awesome way of seeing things. I salute you!! Hope things are great!<br />
Holly xxx</p>
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